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	<description>Al Sweigart&#039;s blog.</description>
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		<title>By: Mink</title>
		<link>http://coffeeghost.net/2007/05/03/this-old-earth-part-1-of-3/comment-page-3/#comment-132771</link>
		<dc:creator>Mink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 22:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really wish more humans in general were more reasonable like you Mr. Al. Unfortunately, most of the &#039;more motivated&#039; individuals-such as commenters &#039;the doctor, Alpha, Grant, and SafariMike&#039;-are the reason a lot of Christians come up with ignorant arguments in the first place. When arguing with someone who thinks that you are ignorant, it becomes simple for you to respond in kind... note to atheists, try less ignorance and more courtesy while having an argument. The individual you are talking to will follow your example and be less ignorant in their own right. But, don&#039;t assume they&#039;re ignorant from the start.
Many atheists have become Christians, and vise versa because they have had different experiences, as humans tend to do. So, don&#039;t assume who you are talking to is a radical nut-job and pay attention to the ARGUMENT at hand.
Although I still disagree with atheism, I can at least respect many of you bloggers because you are rational and have not resorted to verbal abuse aimed at a group that is as diverse in its belief as there are species on different continents. Thank You
Sinerely,
A follower of Christ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really wish more humans in general were more reasonable like you Mr. Al. Unfortunately, most of the &#8216;more motivated&#8217; individuals-such as commenters &#8216;the doctor, Alpha, Grant, and SafariMike&#8217;-are the reason a lot of Christians come up with ignorant arguments in the first place. When arguing with someone who thinks that you are ignorant, it becomes simple for you to respond in kind&#8230; note to atheists, try less ignorance and more courtesy while having an argument. The individual you are talking to will follow your example and be less ignorant in their own right. But, don&#8217;t assume they&#8217;re ignorant from the start.<br />
Many atheists have become Christians, and vise versa because they have had different experiences, as humans tend to do. So, don&#8217;t assume who you are talking to is a radical nut-job and pay attention to the ARGUMENT at hand.<br />
Although I still disagree with atheism, I can at least respect many of you bloggers because you are rational and have not resorted to verbal abuse aimed at a group that is as diverse in its belief as there are species on different continents. Thank You</p>
<p>Sinerely,<br />
A follower of Christ</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 15:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because it&#039;s there</description>
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		<title>By: the doctor</title>
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		<dc:creator>the doctor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 20:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First comment of 2008!
I would like to post something I came up with have wrestled with and I was wondering if someone could help me out, though I feel as if I have already solved it. So here it is:
     We all know that in the Christian theology, if you do something bad, you go to hell. We also know that in the Christian theology, God knows all, past, present, and future. If God knows the Future, he knows what our Future acts are going to be. So, he must also know whether we will go to hell or not, prior to our being born. Nevertheless, he allows that child to be born, full well that that child will be sent to hell when he dies, say, of old age. This brings up the question: is God just in this action?
    A perfect god is just. So why would a perfect god send a child to Earth, only to have him spend eternity in hellfire anyway? This is unanswerable but with the response that God is unjust, therefore imperfect, erego, the Christian god DOES NOT EXIST.
    Now, one may use the argument that God endowed us with free will, and it is really OUR choice on how to act. OK, fine. But what is the point of free will, if He knows beforehand whether he will go to Hell or Heaven?
     Then, as a desperate grasping of straws, if you will, a Christian used the classic, &quot;It&#039;s not our place to question the Almighty&#039;s divine wisdom&quot; argument. To that I answer, &quot;Then why would God give us Free Will and Free Thought, knowing full well that we would turn it against Him in the future? What does He have to gain?
      If you have an answer for this little conundrum, please leave a comment below mine.
Thanks!
                                 - The Doctor</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First comment of 2008!</p>
<p>I would like to post something I came up with have wrestled with and I was wondering if someone could help me out, though I feel as if I have already solved it. So here it is:</p>
<p>     We all know that in the Christian theology, if you do something bad, you go to hell. We also know that in the Christian theology, God knows all, past, present, and future. If God knows the Future, he knows what our Future acts are going to be. So, he must also know whether we will go to hell or not, prior to our being born. Nevertheless, he allows that child to be born, full well that that child will be sent to hell when he dies, say, of old age. This brings up the question: is God just in this action? </p>
<p>    A perfect god is just. So why would a perfect god send a child to Earth, only to have him spend eternity in hellfire anyway? This is unanswerable but with the response that God is unjust, therefore imperfect, erego, the Christian god DOES NOT EXIST.</p>
<p>    Now, one may use the argument that God endowed us with free will, and it is really OUR choice on how to act. OK, fine. But what is the point of free will, if He knows beforehand whether he will go to Hell or Heaven?</p>
<p>     Then, as a desperate grasping of straws, if you will, a Christian used the classic, &#8220;It&#8217;s not our place to question the Almighty&#8217;s divine wisdom&#8221; argument. To that I answer, &#8220;Then why would God give us Free Will and Free Thought, knowing full well that we would turn it against Him in the future? What does He have to gain?</p>
<p>      If you have an answer for this little conundrum, please leave a comment below mine.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>                                 &#8211; The Doctor</p>
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		<title>By: ruindyng</title>
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		<dc:creator>ruindyng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 16:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,
I have recently become acquainted with your work. Well done! I am eagerly awaiting parts 2 &amp; 3 of This Old Earth.</description>
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I have recently become acquainted with your work. Well done! I am eagerly awaiting parts 2 &amp; 3 of This Old Earth.</p>
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		<title>By: Yosef</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yosef</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 10:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Socrates,
Good points there.
My contention is that it is difficult simply to use Logic as a tool to explain why a person chooses to go insane.
I admit it would come across as internally inconsistent. What happens when we employ Logic to explain a person who is internally inconsisent. I often wonder: &quot;What makes green green? What gives a thing its subjective consciousness? I have seen colour-blind people. Since there are a minority, we, being the majority, imposes the sort of standard colour schemas on our TV and LCD displays.
It would be great if Logic could explore elicidate those questions further. Thanks for your comment.
Appreciate them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Socrates,</p>
<p>Good points there.</p>
<p>My contention is that it is difficult simply to use Logic as a tool to explain why a person chooses to go insane.</p>
<p>I admit it would come across as internally inconsistent. What happens when we employ Logic to explain a person who is internally inconsisent. I often wonder: &#8220;What makes green green? What gives a thing its subjective consciousness? I have seen colour-blind people. Since there are a minority, we, being the majority, imposes the sort of standard colour schemas on our TV and LCD displays. </p>
<p>It would be great if Logic could explore elicidate those questions further. Thanks for your comment.</p>
<p>Appreciate them.</p>
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		<title>By: Socrates Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Socrates Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 17:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, that was me just above, not at home so it didn&#039;t auto-fill the name bubble for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, that was me just above, not at home so it didn&#8217;t auto-fill the name bubble for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 17:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The trouble is: sheer philosophical logic can’t seem to break this delusion of a Godhead conception. Simply because Logic is faulty and it is essentially a means to an end.&quot;
Denying logic is internally inconsistant.  If you want to abandon logic though feel free.  However, be prepared for lots of assertations rather than arguments
The major premise minor premise valid conclusion method is pretty much the foundation of logical proofs.  Further these sorts of categorical distinctions are more or less necessary to leading an effective life (read as Hume&#039;s argument that certain ideas have &quot;survival value&quot; *science is another survival trait*).
Basically you need to assume certain things are true in order to get on with life. Without logic &quot;YOU ARE WRONG&quot; would seem as likely a &quot;good&quot; argument (which is to say emotively effective or persuasive) as the socratic method.
Oh wait, my bad, tried to use logic to explain the situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The trouble is: sheer philosophical logic can’t seem to break this delusion of a Godhead conception. Simply because Logic is faulty and it is essentially a means to an end.&#8221;</p>
<p>Denying logic is internally inconsistant.  If you want to abandon logic though feel free.  However, be prepared for lots of assertations rather than arguments</p>
<p>The major premise minor premise valid conclusion method is pretty much the foundation of logical proofs.  Further these sorts of categorical distinctions are more or less necessary to leading an effective life (read as Hume&#8217;s argument that certain ideas have &#8220;survival value&#8221; *science is another survival trait*).</p>
<p>Basically you need to assume certain things are true in order to get on with life. Without logic &#8220;YOU ARE WRONG&#8221; would seem as likely a &#8220;good&#8221; argument (which is to say emotively effective or persuasive) as the socratic method. </p>
<p>Oh wait, my bad, tried to use logic to explain the situation.</p>
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		<title>By: Yosef</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yosef</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 06:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am atheistic by instinct.
Keep working. Love your work.</description>
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<p>Keep working. Love your work.</p>
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		<title>By: Yosef</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yosef</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 06:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Al,
I was born a Moslem but disagreed with many parts of its Sharia. It took a while before I became an atheist. But it was no thanks to your site...haha!
I would like to see two things. Is it possible to have a slower paced video clip? Maybe you could redirect us to a site...this is because we need to digest quite a lot in 8 minutes. But I guess you have your reasons. Maybe a compact and a slower version.
Although, I agree much with your course and effort, it would be excellent to see more alternative views from your other posters in your comment section. I would welcome posters from various faith to comment. You have the right to block those vulgar ones though.
I do pop even every month to check out your site.
Also, the problem is these arguements is that we can never prove whether God does or does not exist. And I do think that God is not a solution to humanity&#039;s problem but rather a problem. We&#039;d have to work with what we have.
The trouble is: sheer philosophical logic can&#039;t seem to break this delusion of a Godhead conception. Simply because Logic is faulty and it is essentially a means to an end.
I am not agnostic though or deistic. I just believe in living and let live. This is no way to discourage you, especially if your effort is an affirmation of you &quot;living&quot; it out.
Well done! It would it brilliant if you attempt to provide (if possible), the deconstruction of God from a phenomenological perspective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Al,</p>
<p>I was born a Moslem but disagreed with many parts of its Sharia. It took a while before I became an atheist. But it was no thanks to your site&#8230;haha!</p>
<p>I would like to see two things. Is it possible to have a slower paced video clip? Maybe you could redirect us to a site&#8230;this is because we need to digest quite a lot in 8 minutes. But I guess you have your reasons. Maybe a compact and a slower version.</p>
<p>Although, I agree much with your course and effort, it would be excellent to see more alternative views from your other posters in your comment section. I would welcome posters from various faith to comment. You have the right to block those vulgar ones though.</p>
<p>I do pop even every month to check out your site. </p>
<p>Also, the problem is these arguements is that we can never prove whether God does or does not exist. And I do think that God is not a solution to humanity&#8217;s problem but rather a problem. We&#8217;d have to work with what we have. </p>
<p>The trouble is: sheer philosophical logic can&#8217;t seem to break this delusion of a Godhead conception. Simply because Logic is faulty and it is essentially a means to an end.</p>
<p>I am not agnostic though or deistic. I just believe in living and let live. This is no way to discourage you, especially if your effort is an affirmation of you &#8220;living&#8221; it out.</p>
<p>Well done! It would it brilliant if you attempt to provide (if possible), the deconstruction of God from a phenomenological perspective.</p>
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		<title>By: Hans</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 15:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome work! Congratulations!
I just stumbled upon your site and I am determined to watch all of your videos. You have done an amazing work, keep it up!</description>
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<p>I just stumbled upon your site and I am determined to watch all of your videos. You have done an amazing work, keep it up!</p>
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