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	<title>Comments on: Your Ignorance Does Not Make a Programming Language Suck</title>
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	<description>Al Sweigart&#039;s blog.</description>
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		<title>By: Wayne B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 15:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Al, did you get more Python in use at your company? How did that work out?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Al, did you get more Python in use at your company? How did that work out?</p>
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		<title>By: marjan</title>
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		<dc:creator>marjan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 23:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>python still sucks</description>
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		<title>By: Swewmemdem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Swewmemdem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 00:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>favorited this one, bro</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>favorited this one, bro</p>
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		<title>By: David Zmick</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Zmick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 23:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree completely with you, well, thats not true, i just do not understand this debate.  It is not the language that determines what a programmer can accomplish.  It is what the programmer knows, and the concepts the programmer knows.  Sure, some things are harder in some languages, and some things are easier, but a language is ONLY a tool for expressing your ideas.  If you dont like one language for your projects, simply use another!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree completely with you, well, thats not true, i just do not understand this debate.  It is not the language that determines what a programmer can accomplish.  It is what the programmer knows, and the concepts the programmer knows.  Sure, some things are harder in some languages, and some things are easier, but a language is ONLY a tool for expressing your ideas.  If you dont like one language for your projects, simply use another!</p>
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		<title>By: Len Parker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Len Parker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 03:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cyrus: I hear that, I&#039;ve read a few python programs and scripts but not written any yet. They all read very straight forward to me. I was taught programming between 11 and 8 years ago, indentation and formatting was strongly pressed in all languages we observed. (VB, Turing, Java, HTML, etc.)
The primary purpose for it, was that if you are going to program professionally you often work in a team, and write only portions or modules of the greater code base. Proper basic formatting functions make your code easier to read and debug.
This would read as a strength in Python to me, forcing would-be programmers to learn good practice, and to make their source more usable in future by those that follow.
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Rod: Sucks, it&#039;s bollocks, it licks donkey nuts, it is without any form of professional or personal merit. It is a deplorable waste of space.
Not to be confused with the a lewd reference such as, my girlfriend sucks... ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cyrus: I hear that, I&#8217;ve read a few python programs and scripts but not written any yet. They all read very straight forward to me. I was taught programming between 11 and 8 years ago, indentation and formatting was strongly pressed in all languages we observed. (VB, Turing, Java, HTML, etc.)</p>
<p>The primary purpose for it, was that if you are going to program professionally you often work in a team, and write only portions or modules of the greater code base. Proper basic formatting functions make your code easier to read and debug.</p>
<p>This would read as a strength in Python to me, forcing would-be programmers to learn good practice, and to make their source more usable in future by those that follow.</p>
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<p>Rod: Sucks, it&#8217;s bollocks, it licks donkey nuts, it is without any form of professional or personal merit. It is a deplorable waste of space.</p>
<p>Not to be confused with the a lewd reference such as, my girlfriend sucks&#8230; ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Gent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Gent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 16:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The language is not as important the community and platform that comes with the language. Sometimes there are technical features of the language that do help promote a better platform + community. This is more or less how a language can suck but you can still have a really great technical language with a very little community and hardly any platform. Consequently a good technical language does not equal good platform and good community. What I mean by good is lots of (correct) options to solve the problem. The parenthetical &quot;correct&quot; inserted above is the mantra of Python. However pythons platform is not as good as Javas. As an example try refactoring Python code... not so easy compared to Java + Eclipse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The language is not as important the community and platform that comes with the language. Sometimes there are technical features of the language that do help promote a better platform + community. This is more or less how a language can suck but you can still have a really great technical language with a very little community and hardly any platform. Consequently a good technical language does not equal good platform and good community. What I mean by good is lots of (correct) options to solve the problem. The parenthetical &#8220;correct&#8221; inserted above is the mantra of Python. However pythons platform is not as good as Javas. As an example try refactoring Python code&#8230; not so easy compared to Java + Eclipse.</p>
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		<title>By: drVirtanen</title>
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		<dc:creator>drVirtanen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 14:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since the commenting has already gone really off the topic, I would like to ask one simple question: Is there a programming language that does not suck ( as in: have a huge amount of disadvantages ) in use for some specific purpose?
@Frank: It is just as possible to talk of Windows in a positive way in a Linux forum, as it is possible to talk of &quot;suckiness&quot; of any language in any forum without causing a fanboy storm. This is a general internet phenomenon.
ps. I am terribly sorry about using words &quot;suck&quot; and &quot;suckiness&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since the commenting has already gone really off the topic, I would like to ask one simple question: Is there a programming language that does not suck ( as in: have a huge amount of disadvantages ) in use for some specific purpose? </p>
<p>@Frank: It is just as possible to talk of Windows in a positive way in a Linux forum, as it is possible to talk of &#8220;suckiness&#8221; of any language in any forum without causing a fanboy storm. This is a general internet phenomenon. </p>
<p>ps. I am terribly sorry about using words &#8220;suck&#8221; and &#8220;suckiness&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Rod</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 19:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m British. What exactly does &#039;sucks&#039; mean? Anything to do with Hoovers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m British. What exactly does &#8216;sucks&#8217; mean? Anything to do with Hoovers?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Warot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Warot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 16:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually Jake, saying something sucks just indicates frustration... everything sucks at one point or another. ;-)
--Mike--</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually Jake, saying something sucks just indicates frustration&#8230; everything sucks at one point or another. ;-)</p>
<p>&#8211;Mike&#8211;</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 21:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If someone is going to go around saying that x language sucks, then they are obviously not a good programmer. Different languages have different strengths and uses. For instance, I&#039;ve heard someone say that PHP sucks because it isn&#039;t good for creating desktop applications! Of course, most people that PHP&#039;s strength is in the web. Heck, they may even be using Wordpress, Druapl, or something that uses PHP to post it.
I don&#039;t think that any language should be ever put down in general. It can be put down for specific purposes all day. But everything has a use where it will do well to some extent, even if it is not as good as another language. Even BASIC is good as a learning tool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If someone is going to go around saying that x language sucks, then they are obviously not a good programmer. Different languages have different strengths and uses. For instance, I&#8217;ve heard someone say that PHP sucks because it isn&#8217;t good for creating desktop applications! Of course, most people that PHP&#8217;s strength is in the web. Heck, they may even be using WordPress, Druapl, or something that uses PHP to post it. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that any language should be ever put down in general. It can be put down for specific purposes all day. But everything has a use where it will do well to some extent, even if it is not as good as another language. Even BASIC is good as a learning tool.</p>
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